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I'm watching an old video of Billy Hardwick bowling, and he puts his index and middle finger in the ball.  First time I've ever seen that.  Is there an advantage to doing that?
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He had some kind of hand injury that made the index finger grip more comfortable. I think he occasionally used the more standard grip, but much of his success was wuth thr grip you obse4ved
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Former PBA lane man , Len Nicholson grew up with Hardwick and told many great stories about him .
I'd like to see those again if anyone knows how to find those.
Those stories have a lot of insight of how great Hardwick was.
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Gary Dickinson used to shoot spares thumb and one finger so the ball wouldn't hook.  He was a fantastic spare shooter.
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There was a Lenny that worked at Pee Wee Reese Lanes in Louisville,Ky
in the 60's. I think it was Nicholson. Hardwick lived in Louisville for awhile
and came in the lanes.

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Hardwick had rheumatoid arthritis, which accounted for his use of the baseball grip. The only other pro I have ever seen utilize that grip with any degree of success was Pat Patterson. You can see it on his appearances on Championship Bowling.
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One of the videos I watched of Billy Hardwick, the commentator said the reason he used an index finger and thumb is because he had an injury in high school shop class which rendered him unable to bend his middle finger and he actually was missing the joint.  That is the only knowledge I have of the issue.


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One of the videos I watched of Billy Hardwick, the commentator said the reason he used an index finger and thumb is because he had an injury in high school shop class which rendered him unable to bend his middle finger and he actually was missing the joint.  That is the only knowledge I have of the issue.




that's what I read too.


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Dare, Hardwick and Nicholson grew up in San Mateo area (S.F. Bay Area) Ca.
Hardwick moved to Louisville after his pro career and Nicholson has remained in California , at least until circa; 2010-2014 (?)
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Dare, Hardwick and Nicholson grew up in San Mateo area (S.F. Bay Area) Ca.
Hardwick moved to Louisville after his pro career and Nicholson has remained in California , at least until circa; 2010-2014 (?)




I'm pretty sure Hardwick lived in Louisville in the 60's. And
pretty sure Lenny was here to. Been a long time but they
were pals with Vinnie Atria,,Pee Wee nephew.

Did Lenny have a podcast with guests. I heard Vinnie on
one and I'm pretty sure it was Nicholson. But I'm going
back over 50 years so I could be wrong.


Vinny was a heck of a good bowler too. Doesn't bowl any
longer cause of back troubles

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You're likely correct , he probably moved while still bowling .Lenny definitely was in Bay Area from 90's on, he was Regional tournament director for Las Vegas events ,with Ted Hoffman .I corresponded with him in 2000's about some "skill" type events he attempted to run.
His online show is "The Phantom" , was affiliated with Kegel Co.
Poster Irish pogi, was a multiple time guest discussing his YouTube channel.
Johnny had a large volume of bowling videos on his channel ( thanks partly to the generosity of some of his kind donors, haha ha)
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