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Oldbowler

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With so many states and people raring to go back to the old normal, I'm predicting there will be a second wave of infections, likely worse than what we have seen currently.  People don't seem to learn from history, even in these dire times.  As for me and mine, we won't be going anywhere crowded, or eating out until there have been zero new cases for a month in our area.  Thoughts anyone?
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My thoughts are I dig exactly where you’re coming from Oldbowler. The places I go to here locally in Yuma, Az are very limited. I go to where there’s only 2-3 people like this snack bar/ gift shop area of this casino that’s temporarily closed here. As far as bowling goes, I crack up at some of these cry-babies whining about “ I hate it not being able to bowl, I’m going to commit suicide. I can’t take this much longer.” They act like it’s the worst darn thing we’ve ever had to go through when it really isn’t. I thank God I served our country, because this is far from the worst thing I’ve ever dealt with. Some people are just wussies and whimps. BOO HOO! It’s only going to be for a temporary time and I predict things will be back to a normal in June. Nothing lasts forever and neither will this Corona Virus epidemic.
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I think what we'll probably see are flare-ups here and there but a worldwide second wave will only happen if the virus is the type that would reappear once autumn is upon us (like influenza does).  The flare-ups will happen in states that that rush the process of loosening restrictions instead of being cautious about it.  This is why I'm so worried about certain politicians coming up with really short timetables and citizens protesting the current restrictions...the combination is toxic for the safety of the group as a whole.


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Here in the area I am in they are intending to start school again May 4th, which is way too soon.  They also intend to end school just 2 weeks later.  Huh?  My wife is recovering from successful colon cancer treatments and I have been rigid in controlling what she is exposed to.  Now they want our grand girls to start school, without any testing going on, and bring home whatever the other folks bring to school.  Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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Testing is pointless. Why?

1. Testing only tells you if you are positive or not. If you are positive? Meaningless. People are supposedly getting the same thing a second time in South Korea. That means if you tested positive, you recovered, and you went back out in society, you could get it again and once again be contagious. Are we going to test every person every day to determine safety?

2. If you test and you are negative, great. That means you are safe to go out for a day until you come into contact with the next person or door handle, then you have to get tested again. Once again, only daily testing of every person in the nation would be able to tell anyone whether or not they could go out, but what would be the point? You'd spend the entire day in line.

3. Antibody tests seem more practical because you could at least determine if you have some immunity to the thing. However, with people getting the same thing twice, some medical experts are now questioning whether a person can even build immunity to this. If that is the case, say goodbye to having had it as a reason to do whatever you want.

4. If people cannot build immunity to it, that would mean that any potential vaccine is a complete waste because it would depend upon sparking the body's immune system.


Frankly, we have one of two situations:

1. We go on with our lives and take reasonable precautions.

2. We stay inside forever.

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There's a LOT about this virus we don't know yet so it's way too early to tell what the long term effects of it will have on society.  I would, however, argue that testing is NOT a pointless endeavor.  Certain individuals (and I'm thinking health care professionals and first responders here) are highly valuable individuals who run the highest risk of exposure, so knowing that they're healthy and that they're not going to infect a whole police station or ER department is of utmost importance.

Randomized testing of the population also helps give us an idea of what percentage has/had the virus...once we get to a certain percentage, herd immunity becomes a possibility.  Knowing how close we might be to that is pretty important too.
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Let's hope a vaccination can even be developed.  I am a season ticket holder for the Detroit Lions.  i'm not very excited to go into a mass gathering of 70,000 others.  I'm hoping they make it a TV event only.  

I agree with themrfreeze, wide spread testing is needed to track this thing.  I too fear in the fall, this will rise up again.  

Meanwhile, I just heard in Georgia, they are relaxing restrictions this Friday and for those who enjoy bowling, will finally be able to bowl.  Michigan has 10 more days of our stay at home order.  Will be interesting to see what happens.  They keep touting that social distancing is working out great in Michigan, so we will see.  
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Kentucky just announced that kids will not return to school this year, thank goodness, and that we will ease into relaxing the rules if, and only if, the rate of infection declines for 2 straight weeks.  We just had another day of over 200 new infections, so I think we are still a month away from any real improvement.

I wasn't impressed with our newly elected governor, but I have gained respect for him with his handling of the situation.  Now if he can keep the whiners at bay, we have a chance at a reasoned approach to recovery.

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Even if the bowling alleys open how many people will stay away? I'm
afraid this is gonna hurt the mom and pop alleys. Guy I've bowled with
for 7 years now said he'd be leery bowling next Fall and I agree with him.


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You’ll either get your money refunded back to you for that Lions season pass or they’ll give you a free season pass for next season Mrbowling300. That’s a standard operational procedure for the fans that attend the games of any pro sports.
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Sweden is only the country refused to lockdown and seen people go out but not many. Sweden is not following Trump’s lockdown the USA.

My Wednesday night league was over and resume in fall

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It's not Trump's lockdown. States mostly set their own rules....some too lax IMO
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Dare is right...the Constitution specifies that in situations like these, public safety is handled at the state level, not the federal level.  As such Trump can only make recommendations regarding the lockdowns...final decisions are made by governors.

It does seem like certain states might be jumping the gun when it comes to reopening...last thing we need are places like Atlanta turning into another epicenter like NYC.

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Michigan's stay at home ends April 30.  Will be interesting to see what will happen.  Michigan has been one of the most restrictive in the country due to rapid growth of the virus.  What people are not understanding that because we stayed at home, the virus is not cured or has gone away.  It has worked to slow the rapid growth and spread.  I suspect, once lock downs will end, you will start to see growth of this again.  Atlanta and the state of GA will be a curious test case for the rest of the country to see what happens next.
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Even if the bowling alleys open how many people will stay away? I'm
afraid this is gonna hurt the mom and pop alleys. Guy I've bowled with
for 7 years now said he'd be leery bowling next Fall and I agree with him.



If and when the alleys open up, I will go only in the afternoon when no one is around.  I won't go back to the league if they try to restart it before Fall.  Typically the new season starts in August, which is too soon I believe.


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