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mrbowling300

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I heard that Jeff Carter, owner of 1 PBA title, and holder of the USBC record for highest league average at 261 died a few days ago.  I have not seen any details as to the cause.  

Here is his wikipedia which acknowledges his death on May 11, 2020.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Carter_(bowler)#Records_&_Milestones

  



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It's not that Jeff Carter.  It's Robin Romeo's brother in law, or Tori Romeo's husband.
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It's not that Jeff Carter.  It's Robin Romeo's brother in law, or Tori Romeo's husband.


wow, I always thought those two bowlers were the same!  I corrected my post...thanks and I hope you're staying safe....good to hear from you Edward!
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It's not that Jeff Carter.  It's Robin Romeo's brother in law, or Tori Romeo's husband.


Any more news on this ?
Your Wikipedia link lists the 261 average Jeff as expired on 5/11/2020. ?
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The Jeff Carter you thought it was posted on his Facebook page as of Friday. So that definitely clears that up. 
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Gary, so it was this Jeff Carter that died?  Do we know what happened?

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No. That Jeff Carter is still alive. Someone needs to edit that Wiki page. 
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Great bowler too. Super nice guy. Kinda reminds me of Joe Firpo. Both extremely talented bowlers that for some reason or another didn't equate to multiple wins on tour. Both of their only wins were odd ball wins. Joe's being a doubles win and Jeff's being a plastic ball win. 
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Add Mike Edwards into that category too. Only one win in a long career.

Two other notable finishes were heartbreaking. 1985 Quaker State when he 4-9'd to lose to Mike Durbin, and the other was the 1995 Splitfire Sparkplug Open, where he needed a strike to beat Danny Wiseman and ended up leaving a 2-8 to lose 278-277 after stringing together 10 in a row.
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Add Mike Edwards into that category too. Only one win in a long career.

Two other notable finishes were heartbreaking. 1985 Quaker State when he 4-9'd to lose to Mike Durbin, and the other was the 1995 Splitfire Sparkplug Open, where he needed a strike to beat Danny Wiseman and ended up leaving a 2-8 to lose 278-277 after stringing together 10 in a row.


Chris Shenkel's comment on the 4-9, two teepee's.  So politically incorrect these days.  Wonder if Edwards had won that tournament, if his career would have been much different, as i'm sure his confidence would be sky high.
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I'd put Firpo in that same boat. He won that doubles title with Del Warren when he was very young. He was a spare making machine. Made of couple of tough ones on a low scoring show. He had so many near misses. The one where he left a 4 pin to lose to Ringener was a killer. The ABC masters show he was locked. Front 8 or 9 in his first or second game. Shot changed and he lost his look. He wins either one of those who knows what might have happened.
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Gary, agreed. Also, back in 1988 - he had to bowl Marshall Holman at the Bowlers Journal down in Florida, a house that Holman dominated at.

Holman just missed Bo's record that day, and Firpo was in the wake..shot 2-teen, but nobody could match Holman that day...he was unstoppable.

1996 Masters was where he lost his look -- ripping the cover off of that RPM Swirl, swinging to the gutter --- the lighting was really bad so it seemed like he was going in a few times.
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The Swirl was a great ball. One of the few AMF had during that era. That and the first batch of King Cobra's. I think that handcuffed Joe back in the day too. AMF just didn't have enough good bowling balls back then. Being on staff provided a (small) steady source of income, but it did him no favors. 
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Bob Learn Jr made that Swirl look amazing when he shot 1129!
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Used the Swirl for the first time at the 40 frame game in Toledo. On the last day I tied the leader in the "woof woof" pot. That's where you had to get strikes in certain frames and I got them all. Guy had been leading for about a month. He couldn't have been happy. Lol. In fact it was the first ball I had when I migrated down to 15 pounds. 
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