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Really, kind of tongue in cheek. They are good. But I would like to see my game with the ball selections they have. Another but, they really are horrible................

I would love to know this season's stat on single pin conversions because it has to be

Flat out horrible.

Whiff after whiff after whiff! Plenty!

Again, they are quite good.

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I personally would like to see the pros all throw the same ball and not have "ball reps" behind them to talk to during the finals.  That'll differentiate those with true skills from those relying more on equipment to succeed.  It'll never happen though.

As for spares it does seem that the percentage of missed spares has gone up, but to some extent I'm willing to blame youth and the nerves of being in the finals and/or on TV for part of this.  These guys wouldn't have gotten to the finals in the first place if they missed so many spares in qualifying.

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I find Chris Barnes analysis of the missed spares to be interesting.  He says because so many bowlers have such powerful releases, they have to change how they throw when they shoot at corner pins. Unfortunately, that means practicing two different releases and he thinks they don't practice their spare releases enough.
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I think missed spares have always been the case with younger players coming into the pro ranks....look how many Buttruff misses....cost him at least 2 titles.
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It would take quite some research but I would to see a video of Walter Ray, Earl, Dick, Mark or Marshall missing a single pin.

Might take some time to dig one up.


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Just for fun I did a quick search...I thought it might be easier to find a Holman miss and sure enough (I tried to embed this to start at 6:11 but can't get it to work...anyways, go to 6:11!):

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Great to see but that would be a rarity.

Those guys were good.


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About spare shooting. Most of the guys who came out in the late 70s with a power game were not good spare shooters. Roth was the exception. .Holman said once he never concentrated on spares in qualifying because he could make the cuts no matter how many he missed. As for the current pros, I have felt for years that the mistake many make is getting off balance trying to throw rockets at single pins. Flattening their release with a spare ball combined with normal speed for them shouldn't make any single pin a major project. .
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Having ball reps and an unlimited arsenal is over rated. Not that the reps aren't good, but when the transition causes guys to lose their look, think how seldom they make a ball change that helps. One game matches simply arent conducive to making more than educated guesses. Situation can be different in longer qualifying format.
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I've always wondered why they throw the ball approximately 75 MPH at a single pin spare.  They are using a plastic ball that isn't going to hook much anyway so why throw it so much harder...and less accurately.

Isn't it only in the last few years that Norm Duke started using a spare ball.  If my memory is correct didn't he use his strike ball to make a 10 pin but just flattened out his release?
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Duke did use his strike ball for spares
Also still uses 16lb the last I heard.
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We have seen some "stats" on telecasts. In particular the make % on some spares and splits.

So I guess they could now figure the televised miss % on these single pins. My guess might be as low as 80-85%.

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I do recall and maybe it was that TOC we missed from the bomb scare, when we finally saw the telecast, Amleto whiffed a 5 pin.
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I was at the TOC for the TV Finals when the bomb scare occurred. We were told to quietly exit the building and we waited outside for the all clear. Glad the weather was nice that day.
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WRW did have a perfect 475-475 season shooting single pins. That is a wow!
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