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Stampy79

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People need to remember: It's not about you, it's about the others.

So the high average bowlers got their 300 ring. They got their 800 ring. They don't want anymore trinket awards from their local association. They don't see any value.

What about Joe and Jane Newbie. They just might throw their first 300 or 800 series. If the selfish bowlers don't certify, they deny these bowlers their proper USBC recognition. I can GUARANTEE that the bowlers who don't want to certify were very excited when they threw their FIRST 300 and 800 series and were able to get their first ring. Now these same bowlers want to deny an up and coming bowler the same enjoyment. Plus the Newbie's probably would like to get the trinkets for their first accomplishments in bowling. For a Newbie, it IS motivation to get better.

You won't see me vote to not certify and deny a bowler their right to recognition for their first 300 and/or 800. No way.

It's not about you, it's about the others. Don't be selfish over a few dollars you pay once a year.

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We are the others. The awards they do manage to scrape up are BS. Give em back to the kids !
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What about Joe and Jane Newbie. They just might throw their first 300 or 800 series. If the selfish bowlers don't certify, they deny these bowlers their proper USBC recognition. I can GUARANTEE that the bowlers who don't want to certify were very excited when they threw their FIRST 300 and 800 series and were able to get their first ring.


IMHO you overestimate the value of USBC awards and recognition....I never wear my 300 ring and my USBC 800 series award just sits on a shelf.  

On the other hand, the manager of the center where I shot both my first 300 and my first 800 went out and had awards made for me for each accomplishment.  These mean WAY more to me than the USBC awards I received because it shows how much he cares and appreciates his bowlers (unlike the USBC which has shown utter contempt towards my league).

It's why I (as league secretary) now give out customized 300 awards in my men's league...it's grossly obvious how much our members appreciate receiving them compared to the pint glass the local USBC gives out...when they remember to do so, that is.



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Back on topic!!!!!!!!!!!

My bowling buddy just got his balance hole plugged on a 13 pound ball he uses.  Yesterday, with a 164 average, he bowled 188.5 average with that ball.  That is the first time I've seen him do that well on the fresh, on two of the worst lanes in the house to boot.  He had a good break mid lane that carried the ball to the pocket well.  His carry isn't as good with 13 anyway, but was great yesterday.

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Back on topic!!!!!!!!!!!

My bowling buddy just got his balance hole plugged on a 13 pound ball he uses.  Yesterday, with a 164 average, he bowled 188.5 average with that ball.  That is the first time I've seen him do that well on the fresh, on two of the worst lanes in the house to boot.  He had a good break mid lane that carried the ball to the pocket well.  His carry isn't as good with 13 anyway, but was great yesterday.


Rats...none of my balls had balance holes in them. I did buy a Roby's
wrist brace[the original] and it helped me keep my wrist straight and
stay behind the ball. My first 700 in over a year.

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As someone who bowls with a "spinner" release, I will say that not having balance holes in my equipment has increased my pin carry and ball reaction. I'm having the best fall part of the season I have ever had. I already have ten 700 series' this year and that's usually what I get for a season. My Tuesday average alone is up to 221 from 213 last year.

The new balance hole rules aren't hurting me.


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Most people will average better with the new rules but it will not change the game for the “Good” bowlers. It will only help the lower average bowlers get closer to what they think is good. This is not new with the USBC. They have done it before with short oil and house shots. All of it is actually controlled by the ball manufactures. They control the USBC.
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The proprietors OWN the USBC. Without the proprietors letting the USBC into their centers, the USBC would not exist. When the proprietors throw their muscle around, the USBC has no choice but to back down. Thus, that is how we have house shots. It is why lane certification is becoming a joke with this tiered garbage. 


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The proprietors OWN the USBC. Without the proprietors letting the USBC into their centers, the USBC would not exist. When the proprietors throw their muscle around, the USBC has no choice but to back down. Thus, that is how we have house shots. It is why lane certification is becoming a joke with this tiered garbage. 



The lanes at Ft Knox have been out of compliance for over 4 years now due to the foul lights not working, and yet the local organization certifies them every year.  As far as I am concerned it is all a sham.

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It's no secret that the BPAA has PWNED the ABC/USBC since forever.  At this point I honestly don't know why the BPAA doesn't just take over organized league bowling and ditch the USBC. 
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