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I like them moving from city to city every week.  As for announcers Stone is who the Fox exec. assigned.  I would be Ok with Holman or Duke or just about anyone not Randy.
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Ok, so if you all could build your own telecast, how would you do it? Commentators, etc.?





I'd see if Burton would be able to announce. There's several pro's
that have sat in various broadcasts and did a much better job than
wanna be comic. Peterson. Why can't 2 pro's make up the broadcast booth.
Hambone....really,it makes me cringe
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As much as I loved Bo and Chris growing up -- Bo just wouldn't do it for me anymore.

I would say Holman and Dave Lamont, Holman being the vet/color commentator and Lamont on the play by play. Or even get Gary Thorne in there.

Just my $0.02
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I like them moving from city to city every week.  As for announcers Stone is who the Fox exec. assigned.  I would be Ok with Holman or Duke or just about anyone not Randy.


I miss the city to city tour too. That's when it was really the PBA "Tour"

Unless it interfere's with other things Fox wants him to do Stone's not going anywhere. Everyone seems to dislike him, but I really don't mind him much. He got to the TofC while qualifying was still going on which says a lot. He's at least trying. I loved Chris Schenkel, God rest his soul, but you never, ever seen him or Bo at a stop until maybe Friday night during the last 8 game block of position. That was it. Their show prep was watching the last couple games of the final position round.

Honestly it's time for a new color guy. Can't stand Randy. Never could. Maybe do what they did with Bo. A guy who's still on tour, but doesn't make the show as much anymore. Chris Barnes is actually a real good color guy, but too bad his voice is so annoying. I like Marshall when he did color, buy I think the game and the technology is past him now. Duke's okay, but he reminds me of Earl a little. Duke know's Duke's game kind of like Earl knew Earl's game if that makes sense. 

My favorite thing about the show is the Fox Track or what ever they call it. Pretty cool stuff. 
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Finger what part of Detroit you live in?
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I'm just not sure what I'd do about the PBA telecasts.

I am probably too stuck in the 70's and 80's to have any ideas that would work now. To me, the old telecasts on ABC, at least thru the 80's, had a dignity about them. Letting the action speak for itself. You don't get respect until you learn to respect yourself. If it were me, I'd return to the old style of telecasts, where less is more and the matches are treated as if they are serious business. I'd remove all the signs and plastic-looking set décor, stop promoting clapping and screaming, except after the shot has been thrown, and let the flavor of the individual bowling centers come out. But having said that, I know that kind of old style telecast is simply no longer an option. So, I don't really know what I would do. Just be glad bowling is still on TV, I guess.


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Finger what part of Detroit you live in?


Just north of Detroit in Sterling Heights. 
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I'm just not sure what I'd do about the PBA telecasts.

I am probably too stuck in the 70's and 80's to have any ideas that would work now. To me, the old telecasts on ABC, at least thru the 80's, had a dignity about them. Letting the action speak for itself. You don't get respect until you learn to respect yourself. If it were me, I'd return to the old style of telecasts, where less is more and the matches are treated as if they are serious business. I'd remove all the signs and plastic-looking set décor, stop promoting clapping and screaming, except after the shot has been thrown, and let the flavor of the individual bowling centers come out. But having said that, I know that kind of old style telecast is simply no longer an option. So, I don't really know what I would do. Just be glad bowling is still on TV, I guess.



As would I, but times have changed and so has the casual audience. They know the bowlers, like us for the most part, will watch. They already have that captive audience. They want the casual fans that happen to stumble across bowling hoping they'll start watching. The feisty nature of a Holman, the prickly demeanor of a Roth, the consummate gentleman such as Anthony aren't enough anymore. The things that made them unique are common place now. The younger generation doesn't have that long of an attention span anymore. They need showman now. Guys who wear their emotion on their sleeves. If you notice there's no Scott Devers types anymore. Not one. 
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I'm not for anything which is in my face, and it seems the TV sports programs are in my face a lot lately.  You can't go anywhere to eat without a TV screen shoving it in your face, even the bowling alley on Ft Knox has TV screens on every other pair, which are always on some sports channel.  The screaming announcers and bowlers acting out turn me off totally.  I go on Youtube and watch the videos from the last century.  They suit me better.
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I'm not for anything which is in my face, and it seems the TV sports programs are in my face a lot lately.  You can't go anywhere to eat without a TV screen shoving it in your face, even the bowling alley on Ft Knox has TV screens on every other pair, which are always on some sports channel.  The screaming announcers and bowlers acting out turn me off totally.  I go on Youtube and watch the videos from the last century.  They suit me better.


That statement on its own sounds really funny to me! [wink]

I agree totally though!
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That statement on its own sounds really funny to me! [wink]

I agree totally though!


I like to put things in proper perspective.  Not many things from this century interest me.

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Do they still have pro ams on the PBA.  Was watching the Pebble beach tourney, and the amatuer list looked like a whose who of Fortune 500 CEOs and celebrities.  Dont know what the amatuer entry fee was at Pebble, but I think it is a minimum of $2000 at much less prestigeous tourneys.  
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The nature of the PBA telecasts have certainly changed since the days of Bo and Chris, and I agree that I'd much prefer a duo like those guys to what we have now (Stone/Pedersen). 

Having said that, we're no longer the target demographic for television...they want younger audiences and somebody loud and obnoxious like Rob Stone is more appealing to the target audience than somebody who's mellow and professional like Chris Schenkel.  Like it or not, Fox is putting out a product that's ultimately designed for somebody else, not us. 

If you want something more appealing, watch the PBA50 tour broadcasts...the announcing is much more "subdued" because they know us older guys are the ones watching and that's what appeals to us.  Would be nice if it was on regular TV though!








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The nature of the PBA telecasts have certainly changed since the days of Bo and Chris, and I agree that I'd much prefer a duo like those guys to what we have now (Stone/Pedersen). 

Having said that, we're no longer the target demographic for television...they want younger audiences and somebody loud and obnoxious like Rob Stone is more appealing to the target audience than somebody who's mellow and professional like Chris Schenkel.  Like it or not, Fox is putting out a product that's ultimately designed for somebody else, not us. 

If you want something more appealing, watch the PBA50 tour broadcasts...the announcing is much more "subdued" because they know us older guys are the ones watching and that's what appeals to us.  Would be nice if it was on regular TV though!


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I like Randy Pederson, Stone meh.  I don't mind yahtzee especially if someone yells it after i bowl one 😉  I don't mind the loud fans and ones with signs.  It doesn't have to be in your face all the time in order to be interesting.  I watch it for bowling and I still have my favourites that i like to see bowl.  I used to always wait for a time in the match for Bo Burton to say "the situation is this Chris".  Agree Stone would rather be viral on twitter than effective as a broadcaster.  In my opinion, the telecasts would fail without Randy.  He's got a decent voice and type A personality that suits the broadcast.  Just my to cents.
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