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What a tournament, what a step ladder, and what a win for Norm Duke!
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Your are not supposed to tell the winner that soon.
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Huh?  It's over, bro.  
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In this case, forget about spoilers. You should have tuned in. This was monumental, emotional moment in PBA history. Duke bowled great and deserved the victory. I do hope # 40 is in his future. A great guy and champion. Even knowing the outcome, you should still watch if you have not. 
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Yea and his ball speed was over 18 with 400 revs.  What a crock.  Glad he won though.  
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Yea and his ball speed was over 18 with 400 revs.  What a crock.  Glad he won though.  



400 revs  what did Belmo have 900?

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I saw only parts of the show because I was bowling at the time.

I assume there must have been an on-screen graphic with ball speed and rev rate. I also doubt the absolute accuracy. But it is not implausible for Duke to have a 400 RPM rev rate at some point. A non-skidding 18 MPH ball would be rotating at about 700 RPM. My guess is the measurement is not taken at release, but somewhere down the lane after the ball has had a chance to rev up a bit. Years ago when I had a lesson from Mike Jasnau, and he said the CATS measuring system he was using could not read the rev rate off the hand, that the numbers given were inflated. He also said that whatever system the PBA telecasts were using at that time (2011?) was even less accurate. I don't know much about the current tracking system used, but I assume that it has similar issues. The MPH reading could also be misleading because it depends on where the ball is being measured too. The typical ball slows a few MPH by the time it reaches the pins.
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The PBA is getting some really good story lines this season. New Network, Belmo being the man to beat, Duke the veteran wins late in his career, over Belmo.  The Tour is back LIVE on TV.  A lot of good things happening again in Pro Bowling.
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Jasnau told me the same thing about CATS. It had me at 320, and he calculated about 275 off my hand with video.
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In this case, forget about spoilers. You should have tuned in. This was monumental, emotional moment in PBA history. Duke bowled great and deserved the victory. I do hope # 40 is in his future. A great guy and champion. Even knowing the outcome, you should still watch if you have not. 


I totally agree on all counts.

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The PBA is getting some really good story lines this season. New Network, Belmo being the man to beat, Duke the veteran wins late in his career, over Belmo.  The Tour is back LIVE on TV.  A lot of good things happening again in Pro Bowling.


Totally agree.  It's great to see weekly live bowling.  

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Yesterday's show was one of the top 5 or 10 best PBA telecasts in history (and I've seen most of them, dating back to the first year ABC telecast Pro Bowlers Tour in 1962).
 
In fact, yesterday's show was eerily similar to one that aired 43 years ago, almost to the day. On February 21, 1976, we saw the championship round of the 1976 AMF Pro Classic.
 
See if this doesn't ring familiar to you after yesterday:
 
The #2 seed that day 43 years ago was one of the PBA's all-time winningest players who was in the twilight of his career -- Dick Weber. And the #1 seed was the player that pretty much everyone acknowledged was the greatest player in the world, and clearly the best player of his generation -- some guy named Earl Anthony.
 
Does this make yesterday's show seem a bit like an echo from the past?
 
Well, it gets even more eerie:
 
Just like Norm Duke had to convert a split (the 4-9) along the way, Dick Weber made the 6-7-10 in his semi-final match against Chuck Pierce.
 
And just like top seed Jason Belmonte left the 3-10 baby split early in his match yesterday, Earl Anthony began with the left-hander's baby split, the 2-7 in his first match.
 
Did I mention that these two shows were eerily similar?
 
And who won? Was it the old grizzled veteran, Weber, who was trying to grab one last drink at the championship fountain? Or was it the younger stud who was acknowledged as the best player of the day?
 
Did I mention that these two shows were eerily similar?
 
Certainly both were instant classics.
 

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Randy Andy Hojnacki says Hi.  He has a pro shop where I bowl and bowl some in my league.  He is leaving for 6 months to go drill at the USBC's.  I am guessing he has a fill in.  I showed him your kids bowling and he go a kick out of it.
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Andy's a good man.  I finally met his roommate when he lived here -- the pro shop operator at a bowling center on the far north side of town.  Turns out he and I were in the same USBC Silver Coaching Certification class together.

Andy used to work the Brunswick booth out at the show in Las Vegas.  I think that's where he trained for the pro shop that he used to work for when he was here.  They ran that booth for Brunswick.  Or staffed it anyway.  Something like that.  Good man.

I hear from him every now and then on Facebook where we've "friended" one another.  So I think he's probably seen PRODIGY before.

Next time he's in, you should tell him he ought to play the show through the TV in his pro shop.  I've had some folks send me pictures where they've caught their pro shop operator playing PRODIGY in their pro shop.  Warms my heart.  :-)


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Ok, Walter Ray #1.................

Earl #2.........................

Norm actually a very quiet #3.....................

Really speaks for straighter being greater.

That was another great show and keep Stone away.

Randy much better to listen to with Dave?

I can't think of his name but that is a very good thing.

Also, nice touch with Tommy Jones sitting in.

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