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Crowds on Demand is an American publicity firm that provides clients with hired actors to pose as fans, paparazzi, security guards, unpaid protesters and professional paid protesters. The company operates in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Las Vegas, New York City, Washington, D.C., Iowa, and New Hampshire. Wikipedia
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I'm a big fan of Michael Moore, here is his podcast on this subject if you care to listen


https://open.spotify.com/episode/4aiHvBJICYKS7zC6D2SdQD?si=IiN8dHY8SvyD1Jx8ps3lHQ
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The Nation has take another multi-trillion dollar hit this week,.Soros has billions but I think he’s spending a lot more than that worldwide . I suspect he has financial backing. Which country or Countries that might be is the 64 dollar question. He has a sizable army with wages, transportation , and supplies .
I read today they found some battle plan type of paperwork planning reconnaissance courses to plan where to set fire to buildings and autos .and how to loot and transport the stolen goods. Just sayin’.
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Sounds similar Robert Creamer company “Democracy .. something” that sent people into Trump rallies and pretend to beTrump fans causing trouble when they were actually being paid with Clinton funds. Creamer is married to Democrat Rep Jan Schankowsky of IL. The guy was caught on video
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Michigan's stay at home order ends on June 8.  Will start to see things open up slowly.  I'm in not much of a rush to be doing anything.  Bowling alleys are still closed though  [frown]
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When the George Floyd murder happened I thought it was the least likely incident to see any demonstrations.
The PD acted swiftly to fire the officers and arrest the worst cop. . It played out like the instigators of all this violence were just laying in wait to jump into the next incident. . They are more armed and prepared than anytime in the past.
Now when police have improved their defenses against the looting and arsonists it’s “bring out the cop killers. “
This is much bigger than a group of righteously angry citizens and perhaps has become an attack on our country. Just some random thoughts.

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George Soros has been the reaper of anarchy most of his life. He is currently banned in many countries. His funding to the Black Lives Movement and Antifa groups are only the tip of the iceberg for this evil mastermind of malicious hatred. He is determined to destroy the sovereignty of our country to help usher in the NWO where he will be one of control in the Illuminati cabal. The Illuminati are the world's wealthiest people and can easily override those who oppose or contradict their narratives. What we are seeing today, are the workings of the liberal cabal fighting against Trump's reign and the Conservative Movement to regain control over our country. The hoaxes, scandals, accusations and virus failed to achieve the Illuminati's plans...so in comes their next plans...Riots & dangerous civil unrest funded none other than George Soros. These groups are being well paid by this evil conductor of anarchy. They were immune to any punishment until President Trump called Antifa a "Terror Group". Hopefully he will make that legal and not a procrastination. Then it's possible to name George Soros a terrorist and have him banned from our country! God bless our country and every patriot fighting to save it!!!
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Old bowler, what’s sick is after openly lying about politics for 4 years the media is trying to pass off this group as local activists even while some reporters have recognized the same bad actors at different locations across the country. I guess these professionals would never think about having a suitcase of phony ID’s.
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Since Covid-19 started I have been watching every PBA Bowling tour Broadcast since 1976.  I keep the PBA Schedule in one window. And watch the episodes in order on Youtube.  (Never looking at comment until the end due to some major spoilers by some Andrew Harris)  I am up to Fall Tour 1988.  I Watch a minimum of 2 tourneys a day.     
I have some questions:    Why did Pete Weber get suspended in 1988?  And why did the NBC Sports announcers mention a lawyer of Dick Weber getting hold of them? Were they joking? And what happened to Mark William's wife?   And what became of the Lawsuit by players they keep talking about?
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Since Covid-19 started I have been watching every PBA Bowling tour Broadcast since 1976.  I keep the PBA Schedule in one window. And watch the episodes in order on Youtube.  (Never looking at comment until the end due to some major spoilers by some Andrew Harris)  I am up to Fall Tour 1988.  I Watch a minimum of 2 tourneys a day.     
I have some questions:    Why did Pete Weber get suspended in 1988?  And why did the NBC Sports announcers mention a lawyer of Dick Weber getting hold of them? Were they joking? And what happened to Mark William's wife?   And what became of the Lawsuit by players they keep talking about?


That's cool what you're doing.  Those were great years in the history of the PBA.

Pete Weber was always in trouble w/ the PBA for misconduct.  PDW has had a history of drug and alcohol abuse, which has affected his behavior on tour.   This also affected his place in PBA history for not being awarded PBA Player of the Year in 1987.  Here is an interesting article from People Magazine in 1988:  https://people.com/archive/young-gifted-and-reckless-bowler-pete-weber-tries-to-keep-his-life-out-of-the-gutter-vol-29-no-7/

I can only guess that Dick's comment about getting a lawyer was him being sarcastic.  Probably had to do w/ his son, Pete, getting blacklisted by players and writers from being awarded 1987 player of the year.

I'm unsure what the story was about Mark William's wife.  In what context were they talking about?

I believe the palyers lawsuit had to do w/ the PBA pension being unfunded and broke.  I doubt anything ever came from that.  In short, Eddie Elias tapped into the fund to support the PBA operations when it needed money before they went totally broke.

Anyone else feel free to comment.


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I believe it was in 1987 when Pete no showed a morning qualifying block. I'm nearly positive it was the Molson Golden Challenge in Windsor, Ontario. Me and a few buddies were hanging out near the paddock ball hawking as usual. Pete had a bad round and walks out of the paddock and says "I need beer." Holding one hand over his head and the other near his waist insinuating a very large beer. We all laughed. Found out later he no showed the next day. I believe the suspension started the next season. 

As for the lawsuit was that maybe regarding the PBA school they wanted everyone to attend? Not sure on the time frame when that happened. I know Earl refused and retired for some time. 

 
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Thanks....That People article was a great read.  I liked hearing that he met DeeDee throwing Frisbees.  I am an avid DISC GOLFER so that was cool to know.  The name of Dick Weber's lawyer the announcers mentioned was Al Gates.     Just curious about the Mark Williams wife question because she shows up in the crowd in early to mid 80's but not in '87 or '88.  His career seems interesting to me because he was so close to quitting the tour.  I remember watching one tourney and Durbin or Bo Burton were commenting how he was their statistician and nearly going to give up PBA tour but his job fell through. Next thing you know he is winning 2 Firestones and top 5 in $$ in 1988.    Thanks again and I am sure I will have more questions as my viewing continues.  Its great because once I hit college in 1985 I quit watching the tour so I really have no idea who wins any of these matches.  One thing of course I do know is that if PDW could of beaten Walter Ray with more success he might of been all time leader in wins.  Dead eye really had his number on TV.So I guess that some of the spoilers I do have coming.PS:  Seeing Pete McCordic get that 300 game and then finally winning a Title (a year later) has been a fav moment recently!
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Expo67, you're like on a 32 year delay of the PBA!!!!  Pete McCordic was one of my favorite moments....watched it live, and I was shaking just as much as Pete was!!!!
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Just finished the 1989 Season.  Wow!  36 Events. Almost all were found as Full Telecasts on Youtube. So nice to have that luxury. My takeaway follows:
    First: Pete Weber killed it for Average all year long--Way ahead of the next bowler. Did he end up at 217? A full pin difference?
    2nd:  Many players made a good amount of money--Aulby's 298 grand is one thing, but it seemed to me the "average" pro was bringing in 80 or 95k. Heck even Stayrook earned over 100k and only won his 1st title.  
    3rd:  Alot of Events and alot of positive exposure--ABC, ESPN, and NBC all gave the PBA telecast a professional touch.  (But I really think ABC made a mistake not giving the tour 2 or 3 hours if necessary.  Cutting short telecasts and not giving a bowler an interview really was a disservice)  ESPN and especially NBC really made a more mellow (Grandpa Jay Randolph), less rushed, and enjoyable telecast.  I loved that there was a "Bo's Tips" and a "Durbin Average Buster" and then Earls segment on NBC.  Great stuff!  Quite the Opposite of the Fox Telecasts and the over the top Rob Stone.  (Its like they think they need to have the Telecast 'Yell At You' with lights and graphics and music and catch phrases and loud clothing and Ads everywhere just to get you to watch.) 
    4th:  What was up with WRW?  Failing to win a title....again  He must go on a tear in the 1990's
    5th:  Seeing DICK WEBER and McDowell win that Doubles Title was a lot of fun! 

***I do have One question for the forum:   Was it correct that Amleto beat out Aulby for Bowler of the Year?  Using the Point System that they would adopt, would Aulby have won?  How close was the vote and who actually votes?


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Great observations.  The 1989 season was a very good one, with a lot of good moments.  You're almost to the point where resin comes on the scene, which was 1991.  In 1990, look for a new bowler named Danny Wiseman.

Yes, Amelto was voted player of the year.  I'm assuming that the PBA bowler membership at large each had a vote, as did the bowling writers.  Amleto did lead in points, but finished 2nd in money, and each won 4 tournies that year.  

I think you're right w/ WRW going on a tear in the 1990s.

I don't remember if NBC ran over their time slot or not, or even ESPN back then.  ABC never did and as much as viewership was for them back then, they should have made televising the complete finals a priority.  I never understood that either.

Keep sending your observations!!!

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Just finished the 1989 Season.  Wow!  36 Events. Almost all were found as Full Telecasts on Youtube. So nice to have that luxury. My takeaway follows:
    First: Pete Weber killed it for Average all year long--Way ahead of the next bowler. Did he end up at 217? A full pin difference?
    2nd:  Many players made a good amount of money--Aulby's 298 grand is one thing, but it seemed to me the "average" pro was bringing in 80 or 95k. Heck even Stayrook earned over 100k and only won his 1st title.  
    3rd:  Alot of Events and alot of positive exposure--ABC, ESPN, and NBC all gave the PBA telecast a professional touch.  (But I really think ABC made a mistake not giving the tour 2 or 3 hours if necessary.  Cutting short telecasts and not giving a bowler an interview really was a disservice)  ESPN and especially NBC really made a more mellow (Grandpa Jay Randolph), less rushed, and enjoyable telecast.  I loved that there was a "Bo's Tips" and a "Durbin Average Buster" and then Earls segment on NBC.  Great stuff!  Quite the Opposite of the Fox Telecasts and the over the top Rob Stone.  (Its like they think they need to have the Telecast 'Yell At You' with lights and graphics and music and catch phrases and loud clothing and Ads everywhere just to get you to watch.) 
    4th:  What was up with WRW?  Failing to win a title....again  He must go on a tear in the 1990's
    5th:  Seeing DICK WEBER and McDowell win that Doubles Title was a lot of fun! 

***I do have One question for the forum:   Was it correct that Amleto beat out Aulby for Bowler of the Year?  Using the Point System that they would adopt, would Aulby have won?  How close was the vote and who actually votes?


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