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What do you do at the end of your league season?  I am secretary and most of the work falls on me. 
Here is what happens.
The last night we have doubles night while bowling and the points still count for pay off.
Last year we paid off 20 places with first place paying $550.  Each bowler paid $3 and his partner paid $3 also. You could get in as many times as you wanted.  We had 458 entries.  Collecting that was fun.
Before the banquet we have a sweeper.  It will pay $500 if we get 50 players.
The banquet will be at the center with 30 pizzas, 4 6' subs, snacks, pop and 3 kegs of beer.
After that we have a $50 buy in texas holdem tournament.
We payoff $1000 for 1st place $300 for winners of each half and $22.25 per point on a 7 point system.
I have to stuff over $60,000 in envelopes the morning of the banquet. 
Then the next month I rest.

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Nothing particularly special the last week of the season, though we do have a 1 game roll-off between the first and second half winners to determine the overall league champions.  We have a banquet the next week that I have to organize since nobody wants to be league vice president (whose sole responsibility is organizing the banquet).  Our league is sponsored by a local pizza shop/catering business and they provide free pizza and wings for the banquet.  Last year I collected $10/head and ordered several other dishes to go along with it (potatoes, rolls, roast beef, etc.) and that went over really well so we'll do it again this year.  I also have to stuff envelopes but it's not nearly as much money as Fordman's league, lol.  Any kind of pot games or whatnot that might be bowled after we eat are organized entirely by the bowlers...once the money is passed out my job is done.



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One (1) game determines the league champions? Never seen that. Not sure I would like that. It's always been a complete 3 game series in all of my leagues using normal series points to determine the league champion.


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Yep, a one game roll-off immediately after we finish our final 3-game set of the season.  We're not a big money league, the winning team only gets an extra $100, and everybody in the league is perfectly happy to have it this way.

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One (1) game determines the league champions? Never seen that. Not sure I would like that. It's always been a complete 3 game series in all of my leagues using normal series points to determine the league champion.



That's what the Pro's do. Our Sr League has the first and second
half winners go best 2 out of three

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One (1) game determines the league champions? Never seen that. Not sure I would like that. It's always been a complete 3 game series in all of my leagues using normal series points to determine the league champion.

  In our 31-week league, a three-game match between the first half winners and the second half winners determines the league champions, just like your leagues.  In a short season league, the standings after the last week prevail.

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For what it's worth, a few years ago I persuaded a few of the Summer leagues I bowled in to adopt a last-day-of-the-season team stepladder.  My team made it into the stepladder of each league, and we finished 2nd in all of them (dammit).  And I have since employed this system in our youth leagues.  The kids love it.

It does make for a very exciting final day.

Three games.  The first game, the #4 qualifying team bowls against the #3 qualifying team.  The winner advances.

Second game the winner of the first game bowls the #2 qualifying team.  The winner advances.

And in the final match (I'm sure you know what happens next), the winner of the second game bowls the #1 seeded team for the league championship.

It makes for a bit of chaos as the names have to be re-programmed into the overhead scoresheets on the stepladder pair of lanes.  But it's not that big of a deal.  And there's a lot of shuffling of players in and out (a lot more than a single player stepladder, of course).

But it does make for some high drama on the final day, as the top 4 teams all have a chance of winning the league championship.

And yeah, it all comes down to one game.

As it should.


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For what it's worth, a few years ago I persuaded a few of the Summer leagues I bowled in to adopt a last-day-of-the-season team stepladder.  My team made it into the stepladder of each league, and we finished 2nd in all of them (dammit).  And I have since employed this system in our youth leagues.  The kids love it.

It does make for a very exciting final day.

Three games.  The first game, the #4 qualifying team bowls against the #3 qualifying team.  The winner advances.

Second game the winner of the first game bowls the #2 qualifying team.  The winner advances.

And in the final match (I'm sure you know what happens next), the winner of the second game bowls the #1 seeded team for the league championship.

It makes for a bit of chaos as the names have to be re-programmed into the overhead scoresheets on the stepladder pair of lanes.  But it's not that big of a deal.  And there's a lot of shuffling of players in and out (a lot more than a single player stepladder, of course).

But it does make for some high drama on the final day, as the top 4 teams all have a chance of winning the league championship.

And yeah, it all comes down to one game.

As it should.




Gee that's a great idea....I'm in awe
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We have a potluck dinner, cash payouts, and a 9-pin no tap tournament.
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Had the banquet on 4/26 and all went well.  Sweeper had 44 entries, could have had more but it had to start early to get done before banquet.  Doubles had 529 entries at $6 each for $3174 collected.  The guys who won got more for the doubles than they got for prize money.  It amazes me how much money these guys spend on pots.  We have 16 to 20 brackets every week and some get into all.  It costs $60 to get into all the high game pots.  Then there is A black jack 2 balls to get 21, Luck Strike, Lucky Digit and the house runs Hold-em  boards at $5 each there are 5 boards with 2 hands on each so that would be 10 x 5 =$50.  Then you add on beer and that can be an expensive night for 33 weeks.  Have a nice summer and be safe.
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Our banquet was almost 4 weeks ago already.   First time in many years that everybody in the league showed up for dinner...was very happy about that.  Afterwards a bunch of us threw $5 each into a pot and did blind-doubles bowling with 6 pound balls.  It was a blast...the leaves were incredible.  😉

We also have our annual league meeting after dinner.  There was discussion about not sanctioning next year and having our own league award prize fund, but that was rejected.  We did pass a new league bylaw allowing balls that were legal as of last summer (ie: with balance holes) to continue being usable in our league once the new USBC rules go into effect next August.  This *may* mean any honor scores thrown in our league with a "grandfathered" ball can't be submitted for sanctioning come August 2020, but honestly the league is so anti-USBC now that nobody cares.  It's a BS rule that only exists to sell more bowling balls.

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The USBC doesn't need to help the bowling ball manufacturers sell bowling balls. They sell enough on their own. Plus, it's far cheaper to have your weight hole plugged.

Let's be honest, the use and placement of weight holes has gotten out of hand. The USBC had to do something. Plus, people were drilling balls with funky gripping styles and saying the hole they weren't using to grip the ball was a weight hole. Even though, the weight hole was changing depending upon which holes they did decide to use for the reaction they wanted. Bowling has existed far longer without weight holes than with.

As for me, none of my current balls have a weight hole and I much prefer the reaction I am getting. I'm bowling pretty well this year. People should try it before whining about it.

Regarding your league rule, it's illegal starting August 1, 2020. If the USBC finds out they'll pull your certification. You may as well not certify. Why pay for something you can't use.


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I have differing opinions about the USBC.  I like that they regulate pin, ball and oil weight and makeup.  I am not a fan of all their choices in those matters.  I don't think they care about the people who actually pay the bills (THE LEAGUE BOWLERS)  My league paid $4,625 in certification fees.  We got two award rings one 800 and one 300.  Nice looking but cheap.  They have money for team USA to go around the world bowling on our dime.  They have a great training facility in Texas.  I have never been to Texas in my 73 years of life.  They did away with all the rings except for 1st time 300 and 800's.  Why not first 2 or 3.  Why not one every 5 times with the number it is.  What about first time 11 in a row.  Sure are a lot of guys that have that but will never get a 300. 
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You want that stuff, join TNBA.  $21/year gets you a ring every year if you earn one.  Now in order to be in TNBA you MUST be in USBC so that may defeat the purpose for some.

I earned a 300 ring, a 299 and 289 lapel pins this season.  Plus a 700 patch (not shown).  http://tnbainc.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/TNBA_Awards-Final-Copy-11_05_09.pdf
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As for me, none of my current balls have a weight hole and I much prefer the reaction I am getting. I'm bowling pretty well this year. People should try it before whining about it.


I have bowling balls both with and without balance holes.  The ones with balance holes have them because they were originally drilled for a right-hander and when I acquired them, they were redrilled for me (a left-hander).   They couldn't be redrilled without reconfiguring them such that a balance hole was needed.  I gain no actual benefit from the balance holes.

The notion that anybody should be forced to pay to have balls plugged and redrilled because the USBC has arbitrarily decided that after 50+ years balance holes are bad is ludicrous. 

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Regarding your league rule, it's illegal starting August 1, 2020. If the USBC finds out they'll pull your certification. You may as well not certify. Why pay for something you can't use.


At least two of the members of my league are USBC officials and neither had a problem with the bylaw.  If the USBC wants to give us $#!T about it then fine, they lose yet another league.  The ONLY reason we decided to sanction next year was that there are two bowlers in the league that bowl in tournaments and only bowl in our league, thus they need to sanction.
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