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On July 10th, 2019 I blew the disc between the L4 and L5 on the left side of the disc.  The wall of the disc is hanging down pushing into the nerve on the spine.  I have a "dead" or floppy left foot right now. As far as pain goes, never felt pain like this before.  Felt like I was walking on sharp glass and mobility was very limited. Forget about trying to put socks on !!!  The Oxy saved me from losing my mind. It would numb the entire body to allow me to sleep at night.  During the day, I would just jack up on Advil (up to 2400 mg per day in the beginning) I was also on Flexeril to help the muscles in the leg from having muscle spasm.  Because of the nerve damage the muscle can't communicate with your brain so it will go into a default mode. Moving forward to the current date, The disc wall has healed up and the Nerve impingement is slowly getting better. Down to 400 mg or less of Advil a day, I'm bowling in league but it's a long road to travel before I ever get back to where I was at. Had to come up with some crazy way of rolling the ball and I can only handle a 8 lb ball.  current avg is 127... Yes I've been getting my balls busted for this avg but everyone in the league knows what happened.  I'm happy to say that I pretty much roll right around this score. I think my high was 144 so far.

Has anyone else here had a blown apart spine and how long did it take for you to recover and will the nerve damage (the pain down the left leg and numb foot) ever go away.

below are the MRI findings

FINDINGS:
Alignment: Unremarkable.
Vertebrae/Bone Marrow: Benign marrow signal.
Disc Levels:
L1-2: Normal.
L2-3: Normal.
L3-4: Disc desiccation without disc bulge or herniation
L4-5: Large focal left subarticular disc extrusion extends caudally behind the L5 vertebral body. There is
marked compression of the left L5 nerve roots at the entrance to the lateral recess. There is also moderate
thecal sac compression. Mild impingement upon the right L5 nerve roots at the lateral recess. There may be
a congenital anomaly involving the left posterior elements at L4/5. This could be further evaluated with CT
scan.
L5-S1: T2 hyperintensity in the peripheral annular fibers is consistent with an annular tear.
Spinal Canal/Conus: Unremarkable.
Soft tissues: Mild asymmetric atrophy is present in the right paraspinal soft tissues.
IMPRESSION:
1. Large left disc extrusion at L4/5.
2. Possible congenital anomaly of the left posterior elements at the same level. Consider further evaluation
with noncontrast CT scan

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Sorry to hear about this!  FWIW one of the guys that owns the bakery I go to had a similar issue and it got to the point where the pressure on his spine made half his body limp.  He finally had it operated on and is recovering, albeit slowly.  He's over 60 and it simply takes longer for older folks to heal.  If your issue has been properly corrected then I would hope it'll eventually return to something close to normal.
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I bowled with 2 men that had numerous surgeries and still have back problems.
One gave bowling up
 
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On July 10th, 2019 I blew the disc between the L4 and L5 on the left side of the disc.  The wall of the disc is hanging down pushing into the nerve on the spine.  I have a "dead" or floppy left foot right now. As far as pain goes, never felt pain like this before.  Felt like I was walking on sharp glass and mobility was very limited. Forget about trying to put socks on !!!  The Oxy saved me from losing my mind. It would numb the entire body to allow me to sleep at night.  During the day, I would just jack up on Advil (up to 2400 mg per day in the beginning) I was also on Flexeril to help the muscles in the leg from having muscle spasm.  Because of the nerve damage the muscle can't communicate with your brain so it will go into a default mode. Moving forward to the current date, The disc wall has healed up and the Nerve impingement is slowly getting better. Down to 400 mg or less of Advil a day, I'm bowling in league but it's a long road to travel before I ever get back to where I was at. Had to come up with some crazy way of rolling the ball and I can only handle a 8 lb ball.  current avg is 127... Yes I've been getting my balls busted for this avg but everyone in the league knows what happened.  I'm happy to say that I pretty much roll right around this score. I think my high was 144 so far.

Has anyone else here had a blown apart spine and how long did it take for you to recover and will the nerve damage (the pain down the left leg and numb foot) ever go away.

below are the MRI findings

FINDINGS:
Alignment: Unremarkable.
Vertebrae/Bone Marrow: Benign marrow signal.
Disc Levels:
L1-2: Normal.
L2-3: Normal.
L3-4: Disc desiccation without disc bulge or herniation
L4-5: Large focal left subarticular disc extrusion extends caudally behind the L5 vertebral body. There is
marked compression of the left L5 nerve roots at the entrance to the lateral recess. There is also moderate
thecal sac compression. Mild impingement upon the right L5 nerve roots at the lateral recess. There may be
a congenital anomaly involving the left posterior elements at L4/5. This could be further evaluated with CT
scan.
L5-S1: T2 hyperintensity in the peripheral annular fibers is consistent with an annular tear.
Spinal Canal/Conus: Unremarkable.
Soft tissues: Mild asymmetric atrophy is present in the right paraspinal soft tissues.
IMPRESSION:
1. Large left disc extrusion at L4/5.
2. Possible congenital anomaly of the left posterior elements at the same level. Consider further evaluation
with noncontrast CT scan


Has anyone else here had a blown apart spine and how long did it take for you to recover and will the nerve damage (the pain down the left leg and numb foot) ever go away. 

Based on my personal medical history, I can tell you that the sciatica you are experiencing (the pain in your hip and down your leg to the big toe) will likely come and go according to how you deal with it.  The first thing I recommend is getting an evaluation by a good sports orthopedist who can lay out an exercise regimen for you.  You have to work at building up that side and increasing your flexibility, otherwise the pain will continue to limit your activity levels.  Second is to cut way back on any meds that will mask the symptoms like pain and discomfort so that you learn to manage how you move.  A good example is getting up and moving.  After a major injury 50 years ago I discovered I could not stand and turn at the same time.  That caused a stabbing pain in my hip and sometimes my sciatic nerve would just freeze me up so I couldn't move, or I fell down.  I learned to stand, and then turn.  Walking is another example.  I have learned to approach any obstacle so that I step over it, or onto it with my good side,  My left side and hip are shot, so I manage walking and stepping accordingly.  It has become natural for me to compensate, and it can for you as well, but it takes time and patience.



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Thanks for the feed back everyone. Oldbowler - I've been doing physical therapy.  I'm off all the heavy meds, just taking 200 to 800 mg of Advil per day and I'm working on getting that to zero.  I also bought a inversion table and have found that to be very helpful.  I'll post updates as I go through this.
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I had back surgery in 1996 (I was 37 years old, 6 weeks away from 38). Same disc as you. Woke up one morning and I could barely move, and I don't have any idea how or when I was injured. I had experienced occasional back pain for years before this. I assumed this was just a worse episode than before, and fortunately my job at the time didn't involve lifting anything heavier than a pencil. But I waited nearly two weeks before going to a doctor, after it became clear to me that it wasn't improving this time.

Was surgery discussed for you? Or do they believe that physical therapy will "fix" this? When the results of my MRI were in I was sent to a surgeon. In my case I had a herniated disc and the "nucleus pulposus", normally inside the disc, was intruding into the spinal column. My symptoms then do not seem to be as severe as yours. It was very painful but not to the extent of nerve damage. But I suppose they believed that physical therapy might do additional damage. I was lucky enough to have a terrific surgeon. My mother was an RN who worked in Pediatrics Intensive Care for many years, which is where all the premature babies are placed. My surgeon was the same doc who took care of the Spina Bifida babies, so with me it must have been like working on an elephant. My surgery was successful, the physical therapy after went well. In fact, while I was given a prescription for a pain killer (Vicodin) after surgery I never filled it. The pain from surgery was less than what I was dealing with before it. That doesn't mean my back is 100%. The MRI indicated a second disc was bulging, and I know when that disc is causing trouble because the pain isn't in my leg, it is in my hip and side.

So, my recovery from surgery took nearly 5 months. That is from the day of surgery until the time I resumed bowling with a 16-lb ball. I did about three or four weeks of physical therapy, 3 days a week with supervision and doing the excercises at home in between. After that I was mostly on my own, except for a few follow-up visits to the surgeon. I resumed bowling (practice only) with a 12-lb ball just before  the 4-month mark, and after a few weeks of that moved up to 14 lbs. However, It took just about a full year before I stopped getting little "reminders" from my back.

My current issue is with that other disc. The last incident happened when I was bowling a tournament in March of last year. I hurt something, but I didn't back off and things got worse over the next month, to the point that I had to quit bowling for a couple of weeks. Oh, and my current job does require lifting boxes up to about 40 or 50 lbs. I only took one day off of work, I just got extremely careful about my lifting technique. I even bought a back brace, which did help. But the back continued to bother me until about the end of June, So that was essentially a 4-month cycle from the initial pain until the time I felt back to normal.

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I mean March of this year through June. It was last bowling season, so It was a different "bowling year".
And, regarding the surgery, the pain in my leg disappeared immediately after the operation. The only pain I was having was the pain where they operated, and that faded in a few weeks. But the healing process takes much longer than that, and an awkward movement, or hitting bump in the road while driving, or sleeping in a bad position, those things would irritate it.
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