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My avatar says it all.  I have the two Golds, a Blue, a Purple, and a Grey Angle (amongst my collection of vintage urethane).  I throw the Gold Angle with some regularity, as I bowl in an old wood hall house, and the ball works beautifully when the conditions are right.  Our host, mrbowling300, knows full well the wrath the Gold Angle can still perpetrate upon people.  [biggrin]



this is a sample of themrfreeze using his Gold Angle....(apologize for the lack of clear focus, somehow the auto focus button got turned off)

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Within the last 3 years, AMF came out with new versions of the Angle bowling ball for a short time. All of the balls were urethane I believe. I want one now, but can't find one.
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Within the last 3 years, AMF came out with new versions of the Angle bowling ball for a short time. All of the balls were urethane I believe. I want one now, but can't find one.


I have yet to see a modern urethane ball that was comparable in quality to the vintage stuff, and I've owned quite a few of them.  I've heard it said that the changes in environmental laws do not allow ball manufacturers to make "urethane" balls the same way they did in the past, so modern versions are at best "approximations".  Some are pretty decent, some aren't even close. 

Long story short, if you want an Angle, buy an original...they can be had for next to nothing (or in the case of all but my Purple Angle, nothing at all).  [biggrin]


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Within the last 3 years, AMF came out with new versions of the Angle bowling ball for a short time. All of the balls were urethane I believe. I want one now, but can't find one.


I have yet to see a modern urethane ball that was comparable in quality to the vintage stuff, and I've owned quite a few of them.  I've heard it said that the changes in environmental laws do not allow ball manufacturers to make "urethane" balls the same way they did in the past, so modern versions are at best "approximations".  Some are pretty decent, some aren't even close. 

Long story short, if you want an Angle, buy an original...they can be had for next to nothing (or in the case of all but my Purple Angle, nothing at all).  [biggrin]




Goldie didn't cost you anything at all, either!  That came off the rack at Astro Lanes!
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Quality control on the original angles was terrible, but the urethane shell was so revolutionary that it trumped bad quality.  Gold Angle was really kind of a dud.  Typical of urethane balls being produced at the time trying to by stronger.  It came from the factory with much more surface, but it took constant sanding to keep it aggressive.  Gray angle  was really a great under rated ball.  It came out a year or two before the ABC put in the short oil mandate, and was discontinued because people were looking for hook in a box reactions.  After short oil everyone came out with so called short oil balls, but the gray angle was better for me than any of them on the short patterns.   
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I own gold and grey Angles.  You're right, the gold needs to be dulled down for it to work its best.  But oh boy, when the lanes are right, I can maul the pocket all day long with it. 

The grey Angle is practically worthless on today's lane conditions though (other than being a spare ball).  Just doesn't move, even on a THS.  They also yellow with age...my grey is now a pale greenish color.  [smile]

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When the urethane ball was the ball of choice in the 80's, lanes were oiled 24 feet, the volume was about half what we use today, and oil viscosity was about half what we see today.   If you found a pristine blue hammer, or Gold Angle you would be shocked at how it reacted on todays conditions compared to the 1980's.  I have owned a Natural, and now use a new era blue hammer.  Both are great on the rare occasions ( short lower volume patterns ) dictate their use.  Even house shots are touchy, because it is hard to stay right of the oil that a urethane will carry down the lane  
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I actually have an original Faball blue Hammer that I throw almost every Sunday morning in my adult-child league.  Works beautifully on the house shot there, but is sometimes actually too much ball to start with.  In that case, I'll throw my red Hammer until I start losing backend reaction, then switch to the dulled-down blue to finish the set.  Between the two balls I have a 235 average, two 300 games and an 833 in the last 3 years, so they're still potent all these years later.

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As soon as I used the word rare I should have know I mis spoke.  Actually with the wet dry house patterns, urethane can be a ball of choice on many house shots.  carry down can still be tricky but  I have had great luck with urethane on several house shots.  More so than on tournament patterns, unless they are very short ( under 32 feet ). 
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