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Until we get this virus under control I don't see
2021 being a great year either. I don't think it's going
to disappear like a miracle


It's not.  There will be some sort of vaccine but how often we'll need to get vaccinated and how well it'll protect against infection are still two big unknowns.  My gut feeling is that it'll be a lot like influenza...there will still be some number of deaths each year but the vaccine will work in enough cases that we'll be able to return to some sort of normalcy. 

This is all predicated upon the expectation that the vast majority of people will actually GET the vaccine.  No doubt some percentage of the anti-vax contingent won't want to get vaccinated, despite the fact that the federal government has already announced that the vaccine itself will be free for every American.  [rolleyes]


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Dr. Fauci has indicated that he is hopeful for some kind of vaccine by the end of this year, or first qtr of 2021.  It will be interesting to see how this would all work.  Would the vaccine work at all?  How do you get it to the masses of people?   Would there be different categories of people to get it first, i.e., veterans, elderly, etc?  Or just on a first come first served basis?  I think it was about 10-13 years ago, the swine flue vaccination, we had to go to the county, wait in a long line for 4 hours to get vaccinated.  It was late fall, very cold, with rain.  My kids who were like 9 or 10 at the time were not happy waiting.
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Dr. Fauci has indicated that he is hopeful for some kind of vaccine by the end of this year, or first qtr of 2021.  It will be interesting to see how this would all work.  Would the vaccine work at all?  How do you get it to the masses of people?   Would there be different categories of people to get it first, i.e., veterans, elderly, etc?  Or just on a first come first served basis?  I think it was about 10-13 years ago, the swine flue vaccination, we had to go to the county, wait in a long line for 4 hours to get vaccinated.  It was late fall, very cold, with rain.  My kids who were like 9 or 10 at the time were not happy waiting.


I won't trust any vaccine they push through by the end of 2020.  When one is well researched, done with the proper blind study and PROVEN effective, I will consider it.  I do get the standard vaccines appropriate for my age, but this craziness, along with my wife's cancer have me ultra cautious.  I am highly doubtful any effective and safe vaccine can be pushed through that fast.

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Dr. Fauci has indicated that he is hopeful for some kind of vaccine by the end of this year, or first qtr of 2021.  It will be interesting to see how this would all work.  Would the vaccine work at all?  How do you get it to the masses of people?   Would there be different categories of people to get it first, i.e., veterans, elderly, etc?  Or just on a first come first served basis?  I think it was about 10-13 years ago, the swine flue vaccination, we had to go to the county, wait in a long line for 4 hours to get vaccinated.  It was late fall, very cold, with rain.  My kids who were like 9 or 10 at the time were not happy waiting.


It is the wealthy first, then the middle class, etc...

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I think the way things are going the middle class will be the
last to get the vaccine. We may have to have a nice little
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I won't trust any vaccine they push through by the end of 2020.  When one is well researched, done with the proper blind study and PROVEN effective, I will consider it.


All of the necessary phases of testing are being done (at least for vaccines that would affect us).  Fact of the matter is that researchers already had a head-start on this...previous vaccines for MERS and SARS as well as existing vaccine technology that allows them to add Covid-19-specific bits to an existing vaccine to make it effective.  I definitely have no problem with people waiting until others have received the vaccine before they themselves get it, but it's not like they had to create a vaccine from scratch and cut every corner possible to rush one out the door.


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All of the necessary phases of testing are being done (at least for vaccines that would affect us).  Fact of the matter is that researchers already had a head-start on this...previous vaccines for MERS and SARS as well as existing vaccine technology that allows them to add Covid-19-specific bits to an existing vaccine to make it effective.  I definitely have no problem with people waiting until others have received the vaccine before they themselves get it, but it's not like they had to create a vaccine from scratch and cut every corner possible to rush one out the door.




I had read they stopped trying to make a earlier Sars vaccine
because it was ineffective and had serious side effects. The
people participating in the tests now are in good health and
most are suffering side effects. What's going to happen when
the rest of the not so healthy start taking the vaccine.. I hope it
works great but I have my doubts

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I had read they stopped trying to make a earlier Sars vaccine
because it was ineffective and had serious side effects. The
people participating in the tests now are in good health and
most are suffering side effects. What's going to happen when
the rest of the not so healthy start taking the vaccine.. I hope it
works great but I have my doubts


When someone tells me they are cobbling together something out of what existed earlier, I am not reassured.  Reminds me of the Johnny Cash song about having a car that spanned many years because he stole the parts from a manufacturing facility he worked at.  I am not a scientist, but I know from trying to tweak many previously manufactured items for my own use, that it is a long process requiring many revisions before coming up with something that works even close to what I want.  As for me I will continue to sit on the sidelines and wait.

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We are bowling 4 man teams instead of 5.  I bowl Mondays and Thursdays, and 1 person voluntarily opted out each day.  for us, it worked out.  Thursday Aug 27th and Monday Aug 31st. are my league start dates.  I guess 4 person teams is safer than 5 person teams......I'm bowling. 



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We are bowling 4 man teams instead of 5.  I bowl Mondays and Thursdays, and 1 person voluntarily opted out each day.  for us, it worked out.  Thursday Aug 27th and Monday Aug 31st. are my league start dates.  I guess 4 person teams is safer than 5 person teams......I'm bowling. 





You're lucky to have bowling.  Here in Michigan, we are still closed for bowling, and do not know when the governor will open it back up.  I fear if there is no winter leagues, then half of our bowling alleys will go under.
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