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So wonderful to see!

FAIRLAWN, Ohio -- Carmen Salvino, 85, is bowling's Bionic Man.

How else to explain Salvino's appearance at PBA Tournament of Champions 2019 this week at AMF Riviera Lanes?

Salvino is not here just to glad-hand or pose for photos or sign autographs, though he gladly will do any of that for anyone who asks. (And if you ask, be ready for a conversation about the science of bowling.)

Salvino is not here just to roll out a ceremonial first ball.

Salvino is here to compete. Against 65 of the greatest bowlers in the world, the majority of whom is in their 20's and 30's.

When qualifying begins Wednesday morning, Salvino will extend his record as the oldest to compete in a PBA Tour event. A 17-time titlist on the national tour, Salvino will bowl in his 29th TOC and 732nd PBA event overall.

"I can still bowl 100 games in a week,'' he said during a break at practice on Tuesday.

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Great for the publicity but who would have had an opportunity if he hadn't been there.  Let the old pro's have an exhibition for the fans and let the young people who might never get another opportunity bowl.  Isn't just living to be that old enough?
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Great for the publicity but who would have had an opportunity if he hadn't been there.  Let the old pro's have an exhibition for the fans and let the young people who might never get another opportunity bowl.  Isn't just living to be that old enough?



A agree. I've seen him bowl in a few tourneys where
he likes to show boaT  little. Roll the ball and get off
the lane
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If I'm not mistaken they changed the entry rules a few years back. The tournament allows all former champions the opportunity to bowl. Unless they changed it again, no one is left out.
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165 for 18 games  

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Randy and Stone did their best to screw up the show. Stone adding Spanish words and his famous ham 
bone Where's Abbot and Costello
when you need them
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I like Fox's production, and it is great to see bowling back on a regular network.  That being said, I really wish they had a different broadcast team.  

Randy was correct that Bob Benoit's 300 game vs. Mark Roth did occur in Grand Prairie Texas, (quaker state finals).  Rob probably never heard the name Bob Benoit up until that moment, lol.  

The $1,000,000 for a 300 in the final match is a great promo to keep people tuned in and watching.  Honestly, as soon as there was not a 300 that was going to be shot, I felt like turning it off!

What were other's thoughts about the show?
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Randy and Stone did their best to screw up the show. Stone adding Spanish words and his famous ham 
bone Where's Abbot and Costello
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I agree with this.  Not only the Spanish, but then "Yahtzee" for a five-bagger?  Looks like he's trying to get that into his hall of shame too.

Was a rough start to the telecast.  Lavery-Spehr shot a carbon copy of one of my league games a few weeks ago...clean through the first 9, open in the 10th for a 180.  PBA, here I come! [biggrin]

As much as I dislike the technique of the winner, I have a begrudging respect for his talent and game.  He posts at the line very well and even shows he's not a robot (missed a 10-pin)!  Didn't really care for him calling attention to himself at the end of the game though.

Regarding the final match, sorry for the spoiler, but I imagine if you click on this thread you know what happened...
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For the life of me the commentary is horrible. Stone and Randy have to go.

I really like the "poker" guy, forget his name. Lon MacEchern?

Teaming him with Marshall or Norm would enhance the show......................but I guess Lon does OK doing poker of all things.

PS.................

I would love to see the expenses for all the bowlers to see how many bleed away money every week. Who really makes a great living off this? How much does Belmonte really make with the trips from Australia?

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I bet Storm sponsors Belmo to come over here.  

Did they ever say how much the prize money is for first thru fifth?

Horrible way to grind out a living.  Most of these guys are young, and I'm sure live at home with their parents.


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Found it.... 50k/25/13/11 and 10 for 5th.
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2018 Masters Golf, $11 million purse.

38th place received $51K................

I agree Storm has helped Belmo with finances and yes it must be a heck of a grind for him.

What does he make at home? That also has me very intrigued.


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Love this forum, by the way. Even though it's my first post I've been reading it for years.

I don't think Mr. Salvino's presence in the tournament hurts anything. If I'm not mistaken, his being there didn't rob someone else of a spot. If it did then, yeah. He needs to sit down.

Concerning the show itself, I waited all weekend to give *this* another try.

I was a huge fan of the old ABC Saturday telecasts and even the USA/ESPN/NBC and CBS broadcasts that came along later. But the last 20+ years I have mainly checked out. I didn't tire of watching bowling on TV but I tired of what I was seeing. Even the last few years on ABC weren't always that great, with arena finals and loud screaming during the telecasts. But the years where it seemed like all the events were being filmed at one time, usually in Nevada though not always, for later broadcast, killed it for me. Every broadcast looked and felt the same, which was phony and plastic and cheap. (Other things, like the exempt tour and short qualifying formats also killed it for me.) I tried to watch a telecast occasionally but would never make it through the whole telecast before checking out.

So, I *really* wanted to give TV bowling another try... and like it. But was it mission accomplished? Not really. I mean it wasn't awful. But the play-by-play and color combo doesn't grab me. (I'm not as bugged by Randy Pederson as I am by Rob Stone, who seems like he doesn't know bowling, or it's history.) And I don't care for the sideliner reporter gimmick or the guy I always saw running around trying to get people to yell. All these things served to cheapen the broadcast for me. On the other hand, at least they were actually at a real bowling alley, and the rest of the lanes weren't walled-off. And the production and overall broadcast did seem better than those Gawd-awful taped events I referred to earlier.

So, I suppose that it was C+ material in my eyes. I wasn't enthralled like I should have been for a T of C broadcast, but part of that could be just my problem, recalling the old days. But it wasn't terrible. And it was live, and at a bowling alley. (Why isn't the T of C at the end of the winter season anymore?)

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Everyone has to remember that if Rob Stone was told to knock off the hambone stuff he would.  It is the PBA who is telling him to do it.  Randy also pushed it last week.  Stone is there to do the professional broadcasting stuff.  The promos.  Randy is supposed to do the bowling tech stuff.  I don't think he does a very good job. 
Someone compared golf to bowling prize funds.  That is a no brainier when you have BILLIONAIRES owning country clubs where golf courses are and people renting buildings where bowling alleys are you can't compare them.  They don't hold big time golf events at the local municipal golf course.  They are held a places where rich C___ S______ go.
Other than that I liked the show and can't wait for the next one.

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Ok, so if you all could build your own telecast, how would you do it? Commentators, etc.?


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