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This was about the closest you get to a movie script-type story in bowling. Old, historic great from the last generation whom everyone had basically written off returns to face the seemingly unstoppable monster from the next one (and whom many despise, fair or not) and takes him down.

And of course, in most sports, that would then lead to criticism of the dominant new guy. "Well, if the old guy who is clearly past his prime can beat him, then imagine..." blah blah blah. But in bowling, since the telecasts are just one game matchups after bowling games out the wazzu just to get on TV, we all know it doesn't really work that way. 

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I had to sub in a league on Sunday. After we got done we went into the bar to watch the first half of the Michigan/Michigan State game. The TV behind the bar was on, but the TV on the opposite side was not. The bartender gave me the remote. It was tricky turning it on, but I finally got it to work. Started flipping channels and came across bowling. Forgot it was on and just left it there. Every started complaining to turn the basketball game on. I said watch it over there, I'm watching bowling. This was just as the Duke/Malott match was starting. When the Duke/Belmonte match got to the 3rd frame or so everyone was watching bowling. It was awesome. One of the best matches I've ever watched. Instant classic. 
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Speaking of deja vu this telecast reminded me of the 1995 IOF Forrester Open. Mark Roth, coming back after a long title drought had to slay Walter Ray Williams Jr. - the top guy of that era - in the title match, to win one more time. 
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I love the 1995 IOF Foresters show with Roth winning.

Near the conclusion of that match after WRW solid 10's to put the game out of reach, Bo says "hello, champ. It's been a long time."

Love it!
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Honestly? I think WRW took a dive on that one. I watched it live and from what I remember there was a shot or two that were very un-WRW-like. I need to watch it again. Classy move by WRW. 
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As long as Roth was lofting it and tripping those 4's...nothing was going to stop him.

I agree that he maybe took a dive there, he did make the show every other week LOL
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Taking a dive?

Do you actually think a professional bowler would intentionally lose a match on television?

You can't be serious.  They didn't make enough money to be throwing it away on purpose like that.


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Taking a dive may be a stretch, but that match was over by the 7th frame. I simply meant towards the end of that game.

In the mid-90's, they were making a boatload of money (by PBA standards) especially compared to today (not even counting inflation)

From what I know, guys on the Brunswick ball staff were pulling in quite a nice chunk of change just for being with the brand. It's different than today where they basically just get equipment for free since they need to change pretty much every game.
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I love the 1995 IOF Foresters show with Roth winning.

Near the conclusion of that match after WRW solid 10's to put the game out of reach, Bo says "hello, champ. It's been a long time."

Love it!



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When you're the best in the world at the time and, if I'm not mistaken, the current players president at that time you take a dive when you know this will be more than likely Roth's last chance at a regular tour title. If I'm WRW I do the same thing. Too much respect for Roth.
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Honestly? I think WRW took a dive on that one. I watched it live and from what I remember there was a shot or two that were very un-WRW-like. I need to watch it again. Classy move by WRW. 



That is the stupidest thing I've heard on this forum.  Saying WRW would take a dive out of respect for Mark Roth?  That's not an act of respect, that's worse than sandbagging.  And on national television?  You really don't understand competition or world class competitors.

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Wasn't anything funny about the show.  Roth won fair and square.  Denny Mclain did serve up a homerun pitch to Mickey Mantle though.
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There's no way Williams threw that match.  Roth was driven to prove he could still win at age 44, and perennial runner-up (at the time) Williams certainly didn't want yet another 2nd place finish.  Roth made the needed adjustment and bowled well, Williams was off that day and didn't.  Case closed.

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Wow. Seems like I'm on the PBA forums again. You saw it one way, I saw it another. Sorry if you think it's the "stupidest" thing you've ever seen here. If you don't think that happens in sports you're naive. Fordman's Denny McClain reference is a perfect example. The only difference is Denny kind of admitted it. 
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I don't know about WRW taking a dive, but there are some pretty clear instances of it happening in sports. The most egregious I've seen was Brett Favre handing Michael Strahan the sack record. 
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